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02/18/2010 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:06:54 PM Start
03:07:24 PM Presentation by Ocs Citizen's Review Panel
04:36:58 PM Presentation on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder
05:34:53 PM Adjourn
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+ OCS Response, by Tammy Sandoval, OCS TELECONFERENCED
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+ Presentation: Fetal Alcohol Spectrum TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                       February 18, 2010                                                                                        
                           3:06 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Wes Keller, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Tammie Wilson, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION BY OCS CITIZEN'S REVIEW PANEL                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION ON FETAL ALCOHOL SPECTRUM DISORDER                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN HEUER, Chair                                                                                                              
Citizen Review Panel (CRP)                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified and presented a PowerPoint of the                                                              
CRP Annual Report.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN HULL, Board Member                                                                                                      
Citizen Review Panel (CRP)                                                                                                      
Wasilla, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during the CRP presentation.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY SANDOVAL, Director                                                                                                        
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Office of Children's Services (OCS)                                                                                             
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in response to the Citizen Review                                                              
Panel (CRP).                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA METIVIER, Statewide Coordinator                                                                                          
Facing Foster Care in Alaska (FFCA)                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about the relationship of OCS and                                                              
CRP to FFCA.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DIANE CASTO, Prevention & Early Intervention Manager                                                                            
Prevention and Early Intervention Section                                                                                       
Division of Behavioral Health                                                                                                   
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about fetal alcohol spectrum                                                                   
disorder (FASD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE RANDALL                                                                                                                  
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about the effects of FASD.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
STEVE RANDALL                                                                                                                   
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about the effects of FASD.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RENEE LELAND (ph)                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about the effects of FASD.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARY BETH MOSS                                                                                                                  
Hoonah, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about the effects of FASD.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE SLOANE (ph)                                                                                                             
Ketchikan, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about special education in the                                                                 
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:06:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WES KELLER  called the House Health  and Social Services                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:06   p.m.                                                               
Representatives Keller,  Herron, Cissna, and Seaton  were present                                                               
at  the  call to  order.    Representative  Lynn arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.  Senator Davis was also in attendance.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation by OCS Citizen's Review Panel                                                                                     
           Presentation by OCS Citizen's Review Panel                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
3:07:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be a presentation by the OCS Citizen's Review Panel.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER reflected  on the difficulty of  dealing with the                                                               
dynamics  of  anger  and  substance   abuse  and  its  effect  on                                                               
children.  He  expressed frustration with knowing  the cause, but                                                               
struggling for policies to address a solution.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:09:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN  HEUER, Chair,  Citizen Review  Panel (CRP),  gave a  brief                                                               
overview explaining  the role of the  CRP.  She pointed  to slide                                                               
2, "Mandate," and  explained that the Citizen  Review Panel (CRP)                                                               
was federally  and state  mandated to  evaluate the  policies and                                                               
procedures of the Office of Children's Services.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:11:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER spoke  about slide 3, "CRP duties,"  and explained that                                                               
the group  went to  community partners  and obtained  feedback on                                                               
how the Child Protection Services were being delivered.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:11:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER moved to slide 4,  "CRP Vision," and explained that the                                                               
vision  was  "to  enable  OCS to  implement  their  policies  and                                                               
procedures  in  a  culturally  sensitive  and  consistent  manner                                                               
across  the state."    She expressed  concern  for different  OCS                                                               
responses to urban areas than for rural and bush areas.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER furnished  slide 5,  "Current Membership,"  and stated                                                               
that  there  were  currently  nine members  from  many  parts  of                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:12:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER skipped to slide  7, "CRP's role in protecting Alaska's                                                               
children," and explained  that CRP visitations were  made to main                                                               
hubs  and satellite  communities in  order to  gather information                                                               
for a site report on the status of child welfare.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  jumped to slide 9,  "Where Some of Us  Have Been," and                                                               
listed the cities CRP had visited.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:13:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked for an  explanation to the lack  of Native                                                               
Alaskan representation on the panel.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER replied  that  there  were two  Native  members.   She                                                               
described the ongoing  effort to include board  members from many                                                               
different cultures,  adding that  it was  difficult to  get rural                                                               
Native Alaskan representation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:15:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER said that CRP spoke  with any agencies that worked with                                                               
children or child protection issues.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER,  in  response  to  Co-Chair  Keller,  said  that  CRP                                                               
scheduled individual appointments ahead of the visit.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:15:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER,  in response to  Representative Seaton,  affirmed that                                                               
CRP  met  with  child  advocacy   centers  (CACs)  in  the  local                                                               
communities  and  she  elaborated   that  the  centers  were  key                                                               
partners with OCS.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:16:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN  HULL, Board  Member, Citizen  Review  Panel (CRP),  said                                                               
that a  result of many  appointments were leads for  other groups                                                               
to speak with.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   KELLER   shared   that  "the   secret   is   community                                                               
coalitions."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:17:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER clarified  that the CRP pressed  for more communication                                                               
among community partners.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER addressed the five issues  of concern for CRP:  Bethel;                                                               
the  creation of  Region 5;  standardization  of recruitment  and                                                               
retention incentives  between state departments;  the urban-rural                                                               
divide  for  the  delivery  of  child  protection  services;  and                                                               
clarification of  funding for the  transportation of  children to                                                               
protective centers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER announced that Bethel  had been in a developing crisis,                                                               
and  was  unable  to  maintain "a  stable  population  of  social                                                               
workers in that  field office... supervisors and  managers."  She                                                               
reported   that  workers   from   Anchorage   and  Wasilla   were                                                               
temporarily   working   in  Bethel.      She   pointed  out   the                                                               
ramifications  to   the  children:  reports  of   harm  were  not                                                               
investigated  in a  timely manner,  follow up  services were  not                                                               
being offered,  families were not  being unified,  and permanency                                                               
was  not being  found.   She pointed  out that  there was  not an                                                               
active effort to  keep cases in courts, and the  legal system was                                                               
"out of  balance."  She  declared that  Bethel was "a  symptom of                                                               
the whole  rural social worker  situation in Bush  Alaska because                                                               
it is so hard to retain workers out there."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:20:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  established  that  she  had  seen  social                                                               
problems   tied  directly   to   water,   energy,  and   economic                                                               
dysfunction.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER agreed, and shared that  Bethel had been in trouble for                                                               
a  long time.   She  observed that  there was  now a  gap in  the                                                               
services which  had dealt  with many  of those  issues, including                                                               
the protection of children.   She declared that Bethel would need                                                               
creative solutions,  different than  the solutions  for Anchorage                                                               
or Wasilla.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:22:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  explained that the  Wasilla OCS office  already served                                                               
13 field offices, and it was  too far removed from Bethel and its                                                               
surrounding villages.   She offered  the CRP  recommendations for                                                               
Bethel:     high  speed  internet;   a  housing   incentive;  job                                                               
flexibility, which could include job  sharing; and she noted that                                                               
social workers received  no extra benefits, which  were needed to                                                               
retain good staff.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:25:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked  if there was subsidized  housing in Bethel                                                               
for the public defenders, or other state agencies.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER replied  that there  was subsidized  housing in  other                                                               
rural  communities,  and  that   the  Division  of  Alaska  State                                                               
Troopers received housing in Bethel.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  noted that  teachers  received  housing in  the                                                               
rural villages  but not in  Bethel.  He  agreed that there  was a                                                               
"significant housing  complex" for  the Division of  Alaska State                                                               
Troopers in  Bethel.  He  expressed that the opposing  view would                                                               
be, "if we  do this for OCS  employees, then do we have  to do it                                                               
for Corrections, DOT..."   He asked if CRP had  given any thought                                                               
to this.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER stressed  that without  a change  to policy,  it would                                                               
become  more difficult  to  keep  good workers  in  Bethel.   She                                                               
emphasized  that the  "band-aid  fix" was  more  costly than  the                                                               
subsidizations.   She called attention  to the need for  a stable                                                               
workforce to solve the OCS problems in Bethel.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  noted that  Bethel  was  his hometown,  and  he                                                               
recognized the difficulty of providing  services to all the areas                                                               
that needed it.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:28:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA, addressing  the  issue  of partnering  in                                                               
Bethel, opined  that "tribal health  is a pretty  mighty engine."                                                               
She  declared  a need  for  actively  pursuing partnerships,  and                                                               
suggested that it  could be accomplished quickly.   She urged the                                                               
use  of Medicaid  money for  services to  the kids,  and observed                                                               
that it could generate some fiscal support.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:29:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER relayed  that the overwhelming request  was for support                                                               
staff to  allow social workers to  do social work.   In addition,                                                               
she declared that supervisors needed to be on-site, not remote.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:31:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER moved  to the next slide, "Proposed  Fifth Region," and                                                               
described  the  four  current  OCS   regions.    She  pointed  to                                                               
everything which was run out  of the Wasilla office, and declared                                                               
that 13 field offices were too  many for the Wasilla region.  She                                                               
compared  that  the State  Troopers  had  five regions,  and  she                                                               
observed that there  was very strong support for  the addition of                                                               
a fifth region.  She informed  the committee that the 55 villages                                                               
around Bethel had the highest rate of sexual abuse in the state.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER provided the next slide,  and she reflected on the need                                                               
for  standardization  of  recruitment  and  retention  incentives                                                               
among   state  departments.     She   explained  that   different                                                               
departments had  different means of retention,  and she expressed                                                               
the need for creative solutions, especially for rural employees.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:34:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HEUER offered  the  next  slide, "Urban/Rural/Bush  Divide."                                                               
She noted  that CRP  endorsed "the  consistent delivery  of child                                                               
protection services throughout  the state."  She  agreed that OCS                                                               
was  working  to  implement new  programs  to  standardize  child                                                               
protection  among the  regions.   She  ascertained  that the  new                                                               
programs were  developed and  piloted in  urban areas,  but often                                                               
did not  work as well  in Rural and  Bush Alaska, resulting  in a                                                               
lower  quality  of  child  protection for  these  regions.    She                                                               
recommended for OCS to collaborate  with tribal partners in order                                                               
for  these programs  to  be successful.    She acknowledged  that                                                               
there could be some difficulty with federal regulations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:36:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  moved on  to the next  CRP recommendation:  to clarify                                                               
the funding  responsibility for transportation to  Child Advocacy                                                               
Centers (CACs).   She  confirmed that this  was a  constant "turf                                                               
battle," which  often resulted in  delay and agency  conflict, as                                                               
the  statutory  language  did  not  make  the  designation.    In                                                               
response  to Co-Chair  Keller, she  said that  this conflict  was                                                               
reported in many rural communities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked if there was a transportation priority.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER offered her belief that  it was usually paid for by the                                                               
Division of Alaska State Troopers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON agreed that there needed  to be a priority in the                                                               
case of a crime being committed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:40:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON shared  that  he had  visited  the CAC  in                                                               
Homer,  and  he noted  that  there  was  no requirement  for  the                                                               
Division  of  Alaska State  Troopers  to  utilize  the CAC.    He                                                               
pointed out that  the forensic investigation was often  done by a                                                               
trooper.  He opined that this  could be a policy issue, more than                                                               
a funding issue.  He  suggested bringing the departments together                                                               
to discuss  the issues.   He  mentioned that  he had  requested a                                                               
report  from the  Department of  Law  for the  frequency of  non-                                                               
prosecution  due  to poor  forensic  investigation  by the  state                                                               
troopers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KELLER pointed  out that  the  Children's Justice  Task                                                               
Force was also pursuing this.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:43:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER  described the next  slide, "Recent  OCS Improvements."                                                               
She listed  an expansion  of training for  front line  workers, a                                                               
new  supervisor  training  program, improvement  of  the  OCS-CRP                                                               
partnership, and  temporary solutions  to the Bethel  problems as                                                               
improvements.  She touted the hard work of the rural OCS staff.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:45:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. HEUER summarized:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     OCS  is really  struggling  to  provide adequate  child                                                                    
     protection  services,  in the  face  of  the amount  of                                                                    
     child abuse  that there  is in Alaska.   Bethel  is the                                                                    
     most  blatant example,  but it's  happening everywhere.                                                                    
     It  is  the  result   of  an  overwhelming  demand  and                                                                    
     inadequate  human  and  capital resources.    They  are                                                                    
     doing what they can, but  it's not enough.  We're going                                                                    
     to have  to find a  different way to build  the system;                                                                    
     to continue  to just  extend what there  is is  not the                                                                    
     solution.  We've  got to design it  differently.  We've                                                                    
     got to  let them train  people and then expect  them to                                                                    
     stay around  for multiple  years, so  their experience,                                                                    
     they  know what  to do,  they make  community partners,                                                                    
     they   make  tribal   partners,   and  they   establish                                                                    
     relationships with families.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:46:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA offered to join a subcommittee to help.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:47:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER  expressed his gratitude  to CRP for its  work in                                                               
the communities.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:47:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY SANDOVAL,  Director, Central  Office, Office  of Children's                                                               
Services (OCS), Department of Health  and Social Services (DHSS),                                                               
said that OCS  was very grateful to  the CRP for all  its work to                                                               
improve the  statewide systems.   She offered to provide  a wider                                                               
view to the issues  at OCS.  She pointed out  that a year before,                                                               
OCS  had just  completed  the  second of  the  federal Child  and                                                               
Family Services  Reviews (CFSR), which indicated  that there were                                                               
a number  of areas for  improvement.   She reported that  the OCS                                                               
Progress Improvement  Plan (PIP),  a two year  federal corrective                                                               
action  plan within  the child  welfare system,  was approved  in                                                               
December, 2009.  She related  the three themes for improvement in                                                               
the plan:  families' intervention  within the system, supervision                                                               
and  accountability, and  strengthening system  capacities.   She                                                               
stressed that  OCS could not be  the only system for  service and                                                               
interaction  with   the  family,   in  order  for   a  successful                                                               
intervention.    She  stated  that  the PIP  was  posted  on  the                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services website.  She addressed                                                               
the CRP  recommendation for standardization  and shared  a "model                                                               
of practice" which OCS had developed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL explained  that the practice model was  a high level                                                               
overview of  the five core  components within OCS, with  a method                                                               
for conducting  business.  [Included  in the  committee packets.]                                                               
She  expanded  on each  of  these  five components:  intake,  the                                                               
taking of a  new call; initial assessment, the  assessment of the                                                               
family  situation;  family  services, the  ongoing  intervention;                                                               
resource families, the adoptive  families; and service array, the                                                               
community providers all working together for the same outcome.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  addressed the  CRP points,  and agreed  that Bethel                                                               
was a  problem.  She  pointed out that  an early problem  was the                                                               
inability of the bandwidth to  allow the discovery and permanency                                                               
reports to  get to the  court.   She explained how  the bandwidth                                                               
problem affected  the OCS  management information  program, ORCA.                                                               
She revealed  that satellite latency  in the rural areas  did not                                                               
allow the  documents to  be produced that  were required  by law.                                                               
She reported a short term fix for  Bethel was due in 90 days, and                                                               
explained that there  was a long term fix projected  to be online                                                               
in 24 months.  She projected  that this would allow workers to do                                                               
their job, and would increase worker retention.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:58:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  reminded  that   there  were  these  same                                                               
problems with ORCA  four years prior, suggesting that  it was the                                                               
design of  the program, and  not bandwidth.  He  recollected that                                                               
the program focused on constant  communication, and did not allow                                                               
a  report to  be downloaded,  worked on,  and sent  back in.   He                                                               
offered his  belief that  ORCA was  designed for  urban use.   He                                                               
expressed his frustration with the ORCA program.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:01:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER said that he realized  it was big issue, but that                                                               
he considered it to be a bandwidth problem.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:02:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON emphasized his  belief that the problem was                                                               
the ORCA software, not the transmission speed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:04:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL,  in response,  agreed  and  stated that  continual                                                               
program improvements  had been  made over the  last 4  years, but                                                               
that  she  was not  sure  if  this issue  had  been  fixed.   She                                                               
reflected that  this was an  opportunity to see if  rural service                                                               
could be  improved.  She  shared that other departments  with web                                                               
based applications  were experiencing  the same issues,  and that                                                               
this solution was for all the state agencies.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER  summarized this  to be a  serious issue,  but he                                                               
recognized the challenges due to the geography of Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:07:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL moved  to the second issue of  CRP concern: creation                                                               
of  a  fifth region.    She  reported that  OCS  was  close to  a                                                               
finalized plan, and  she affirmed that the  growing population of                                                               
the Mat-Su  Valley necessitated  development for  another region.                                                               
She shared that  there were two line supervisors  for Bethel, but                                                               
that  the shortage  of  staff had  necessitated  that both  these                                                               
leaders also "carry  cases."  She noted that funding  for the new                                                               
region  would  include  leadership and  management  positions  to                                                               
strengthen community coalitions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:09:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER asked  how this would be done.   He affirmed that                                                               
the consensus solution  was for community coalitions.   He stated                                                               
his concern  for the  difficulty of  administration at  the state                                                               
level connecting with a community based organization.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:10:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL agreed that OCS  was building these coalitions.  She                                                               
reflected on a  recent conference she had  attended that included                                                               
community stakeholder  groups working together.   She offered her                                                               
belief   that,  given   OCS  leadership,   this  same   community                                                               
involvement would arise in Bethel.   She acknowledged that it was                                                               
necessary to build a network around the family.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:13:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  moved on to  the discussion for  standardization of                                                               
incentives, though she  noted that she did not  have anything new                                                               
to offer.  She emphasized  that retention and recruitment was her                                                               
primary issue  as director of OCS.   In 2009, the  OCS front line                                                               
staff had a  34 percent turnover, and a 20  percent vacancy rate.                                                               
She stated that 50 percent of  front line staff had been with OCS                                                               
for less  than two years, and  20 percent had been  with OCS less                                                               
than  one year.    She confirmed  that  this constant  retraining                                                               
explained a  lot of the OCS  struggles.  She relayed  an anecdote                                                               
detailing  three reasons  for the  Bethel staffing  difficulties:                                                               
the moving costs were more than  OCS could offer to pay; the cost                                                               
of living in  Bethel was too high; and, the  plane tickets to and                                                               
from Bethel were too expensive.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:17:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL, in  response to Co-Chair Keller,  explained the two                                                               
classifications  for  front  line  worker:    social  worker,  if                                                               
licensed and with a degree  in social work; and children services                                                               
specialist, which required a related  four year degree, or "many,                                                               
many  years of  experience  in doing  OCS work  in  the past  and                                                               
moving through the system."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER asked about recruitment within Bethel.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL  replied  that  there  was  a  stipend  program  in                                                               
conjunction with the University  of Alaska, which allowed workers                                                               
to  return to  school  for a  social work  degree,  but that  was                                                               
usually a child services specialist, with a related degree.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  offered his belief  of an  ongoing institutional                                                               
resistance to  a collaborative relationship  between OCS  and the                                                               
Indian Child  Welfare Act (ICWA).   He asked how many  more years                                                               
it would be until a mutual trust existed between ICWA and OCS.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL, in  response, said that she was  "not entirely sure                                                               
if I know what you are referring  to, but I can tell you that the                                                               
Office  of Children's  Services (OCS)  is ready  to move  on what                                                               
would be  called contracting  for tribal  case management."   She                                                               
provided  that  this was  federally  approved  and that  OCS  was                                                               
prepared  to contract  with tribes  to help  with the  ICWA work.                                                               
She clarified  that it  was not resistance  within OCS,  and that                                                               
OCS was ready to pay the tribes for help with the work.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SANDOVAL, in  response to  Co-Chair  Keller, explained  that                                                               
some duties can  be contracted, and some duties  must be retained                                                               
by OCS.   She  stated that  OCS would  we working  in partnership                                                               
with the contracted tribes to serve the families.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:22:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL expressed her agreement  with CRP to the differences                                                               
between  rural,   bush,  and  urban  and   the  difficulties  for                                                               
standardization because of  these differences.  She  spoke to the                                                               
funding  responsibility   for  CACs,  expressed   agreement  with                                                               
Representative Seaton's analysis, and  listed a myriad of reasons                                                               
for the difficulties of resolution.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:24:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  expressed  a  need  for  a  collaborative                                                               
discussion among the participants to reach a solution.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:27:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON, reflecting  on communications  and relief                                                               
for  the paperwork  burden,  asked if  remote  area line  workers                                                               
could utilize an input device,  or if there were limitations with                                                               
ORCA.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:28:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  replied that,  in addition  to available  pilot and                                                               
fee services,  OCS had  a contract with  a dictation  service for                                                               
case  notes.   She  shared that  there was  not  a mandatory  use                                                               
policy, but  that personal style  determined the  preferable tool                                                               
for each staff.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked to clarify  that ORCA would integrate                                                               
with   various  input   devices,   and   that  individuals,   not                                                               
necessarily the entire office, could request a device.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:29:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SANDOVAL  said that  she would not  deny a  requested device,                                                               
but  that  she  could  not   speak  to  all  devices  working  in                                                               
conjunction with ORCA.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:31:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER suggested a workshop during the interim.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:31:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA  METIVIER, Statewide  Coordinator, Facing  Foster Care  in                                                               
Alaska (FFCA), said that CRP was  doing great work.  She stressed                                                               
that her recommendations  for supporting youth could  not be made                                                               
without supporting  the workers.   She applauded OCS for  its PIP                                                               
and the engagement  with FFCA to ensure that  youth were involved                                                               
with the life decisions.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:33:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked Ms.  Metivier for  her impressions  of OCS                                                               
from 10 years ago to today.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. METIVIER directed her comments  to the OCS independent living                                                               
program for older  youth.  She noted that the  program had grown,                                                               
and  offered  more services.    Previously,  there had  been  one                                                               
independent  living coordinator  in  Juneau, but  now there  were                                                               
four regional  independent living  specialists to help  develop a                                                               
plan for education  and housing resources.  She  pointed out that                                                               
more needed to  be done, as youth were still  aging out of foster                                                               
care into homelessness.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:35:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:35 p.m. to 4:36 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder                                                                                
        Presentation on Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
4:36:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be a presentation on fetal alcohol spectrum disorder.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DIANE CASTO, Prevention &  Early Intervention Manager, Prevention                                                               
and Early  Intervention Section,  Division of  Behavioral Health,                                                               
Department    of    Health    and   Social    Services    (DHSS),                                                               
enthusiastically reported  a 32 percent decrease  for birth rates                                                               
with FASD from 1996-2002.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:38:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  outlined her background  in the prevention  field, and                                                               
emphasized  that this  decrease did  not happen  overnight.   She                                                               
noted that  FASD efforts began  with a 1991-95  initiative funded                                                               
by  a small  grant from  the Centers  for Disease  Control (CDC).                                                               
She spoke about  the current initiative which began  in 1998, and                                                               
including funding  from a  federal earmark  from 2000-2006.   She                                                               
emphasized that  results took  generations, and  it was  only now                                                               
that  results were  seen.   She reported  that it  took a  lot of                                                               
public  education, as  many women  did not  realize that  alcohol                                                               
consumption during  pregnancy could damage the  developing child.                                                               
She shared that alcoholism was  a destructive condition, and that                                                               
another part  of the public  message was  for the public  to help                                                               
alcoholics to stop drinking or not get pregnant.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:42:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO said  that a statewide network of  ten diagnostic teams                                                               
each  helped   150-200  FASD  children   annually  to   find  the                                                               
appropriate services.  She emphasized  that there were not enough                                                               
services available,  especially for  individuals who do  not look                                                               
disabled but have  damaged brains.  She elaborated  that a normal                                                               
appearance lead  people to label  actions as "bad  behavior" when                                                               
it was actually FASD.  She affirmed that there was progress.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO  declared   that  a  downward  trend   could  only  be                                                               
maintained  with vigilance,  and would  be difficult  to maintain                                                               
after the  loss of federal funding.   She stated that  it takes a                                                               
long  time to  change the  social norm  and that  each generation                                                               
needed to hear  the information.  She compared it  to the tobacco                                                               
education  process.   She declared  that the  majority of  the 32                                                               
percent decrease  in FASD  births was  within the  Native Alaskan                                                               
population.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:47:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO, in  response to Co-Chair Keller, said  that Alaska was                                                               
one of the  few states to collect this data,  but that Alaska had                                                               
the highest  decrease of  those states.   She stated  that Alaska                                                               
was viewed as a leader for  its collection of prevalence data and                                                               
its monitoring of the births.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:48:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER reflected that the  data should be even better in                                                               
the upcoming year.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:48:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  expressed her  concern for data  after 2006,  as there                                                               
was no  longer an  education grant.   She  opined that  the grant                                                               
money  had been  spent  efficiently and  effectively  for a  good                                                               
infrastructure.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:49:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN asked  if there  was  medical evidence  that                                                               
alcoholism would result in FASD in sperm.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:49:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO replied  that male  drinking did  not cause  FASD, but                                                               
that excessive  and binge drinking  would reduce sperm  count and                                                               
result  in  a   decreased  birth  weight.     She  confirmed  the                                                               
importance of the  male role for support to a  woman not drinking                                                               
during pregnancy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:51:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked about  the proportion of  women with                                                               
FASD having a child with FASD.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CASTO  replied that  there was  not a lot  of data,  but that                                                               
many  women with  FASD had  a  high birth  rate with  FASD.   She                                                               
declared  that alcohol  was  often used  for  self medication  by                                                               
individuals  with  FASD.   She  established  that alcoholism  was                                                               
generational, and that education was needed to break the cycle.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CASTO,  in  response  to Representative  Seaton,  said  that                                                               
voluntary  long  term  contraception  was a  huge  piece  of  the                                                               
comprehensive approach  to reducing  the number of  children born                                                               
with  FASD.   She reported  that  the department  worked on  long                                                               
duration contraception.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:55:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE RANDALL introduced her newly  adopted 7 year old daughter,                                                               
Eleanor,  who  was  diagnosed  with FASD.    She  described  that                                                               
Eleanor had significant developmental  delays when she first came                                                               
to live with them three  years prior; she experienced frustration                                                               
in communication  as most  people could  not understand  her, she                                                               
did  not   have  the  hand-eye   coordination  or   the  muscular                                                               
development  to bounce  a  ball, and  her speech  was  that of  a                                                               
toddler.     Ms.  Randall   conveyed  that   Eleanor's  academic,                                                               
emotional, and physical curriculum was  increased to bring her up                                                               
to her age group.  She shared  that all the family had moments of                                                               
frustration,  but that  everyone persevered.   Eleanor  still has                                                               
specialized  tutoring, twice  a  day,  seven days  a  week.   She                                                               
specified  that  the  sports   venue  helped  with  coordination,                                                               
organizational skills, and  self esteem.  She  recounted the time                                                               
and  effort they  all gave,  and  she stated  that early  support                                                               
services for  FASD allowed  for a 90  percent chance  of success.                                                               
She  acknowledged   the  need  for   Eleanor  to   continue  with                                                               
specialized  tutoring, mental  health, and  sports programs,  and                                                               
she  noted  the need  for  other  services  as Eleanor  became  a                                                               
teenager.   She  said, "we've  told her  from the  very beginning                                                               
that our job  as parents is to  help her be the best  she can be,                                                               
and that her job  is to help us to do that."   She requested that                                                               
funds be secured for FASD children.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
STEVE RANDALL  disclosed that he  and his wife had  been coaches,                                                               
teachers,  and foster  parents, and  had faced  the corresponding                                                               
challenges.   He shared that  FASD had enlarged  their definition                                                               
of need.   He reviewed Eleanor's history with  the family, noting                                                               
her lack of  clothing, insatiable hunger, and need  for love when                                                               
she arrived.   He observed  that most Ketchikan teachers  did not                                                               
know much  about FASD, and  the nature  of such a  broad spectrum                                                               
disease made it difficult for  answers.  He reported that testing                                                               
at the  Juneau FASD  clinic provided  many answers  for Eleanor's                                                               
needs.   He  described the  learning and  behavioral difficulties                                                               
and frustrations of  FASD.  He stated the need  for FASD funding.                                                               
He  revealed that  many of  the students  in Ketchikan  exhibited                                                               
some FASD-like behavior.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:05:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR KELLER passed the gavel to CO-CHAIR HERRON.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:06:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENEE LELAND  (ph) shared the  story of  her 10 year  old adopted                                                               
son, Caleb.   She spoke  about Caleb's biological mother  and her                                                               
history of binge drinking, domestic  violence, and placement in a                                                               
treatment facility while  pregnant.  Ms. Leland  shared that when                                                               
Caleb  missed developmental  milestones, she  was able  to access                                                               
the many  FASD therapies in  Anchorage, but she pointed  out that                                                               
these facilities were not available  in rural areas.  She related                                                               
a  story  about a  teacher  who,  even  though aware  of  Caleb's                                                               
disability, had denied Caleb a  reward for a memorization project                                                               
that Caleb  had worked hard on,  but had been unable  to perform.                                                               
She  shared  that  Caleb  was   voted  "the  kid  with  the  most                                                               
perseverance," and she  voiced her pride of him.   She asked that                                                               
the  committee  support  funding   for  FASD  education  and  for                                                               
substance abuse treatment centers.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:11:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LELAND,  in response to  Co-Chair Herron, said  that progress                                                               
was  being made  to  educate teachers  about  FASD, although  the                                                               
misunderstandings about FASD behavior were still a big issue.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARY  BETH  MOSS shared  her  experiences  with  her 3  year  old                                                               
adopted daughter, Leah.  She  described Leah's birth mother:  her                                                               
background,  and  her  pregnancy,  during  which  Leah  had  been                                                               
exposed to "alcohol, marijuana,  oxycontin, and crack cocaine for                                                               
every day  of her  prenatal existence."   Ms. Moss  reported that                                                               
Leah  met all  her early  developmental milestones,  but that  an                                                               
examination  at  the  FASD  clinic   in  Juneau  revealed  Leah's                                                               
condition.   Ms. Moss  reported that there  were no  resources in                                                               
Hoonah and  that none  of the Hoonah  school, Head  Start, tribal                                                               
representatives, or  clinic staff had any  familiarity with FASD.                                                               
She pointed  out that all  of her information came  from internet                                                               
searches and contacts  with other FASD families.   She shared the                                                               
honor  of  Leah's Tlingit  name.    She  asked the  committee  to                                                               
support funding for FASD programs.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
5:18:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked  each witness to list the  one FASD service                                                               
that would help the most.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS  replied that "small,  rural, often  Native, communities                                                               
were desperately in  need of services."  She  explained that many                                                               
communities  did   not  have  the   time,  the  skills,   or  the                                                               
wherewithal   to  search   for  resources,   and  that   she  had                                                               
opportunities that most others did  not.  She asked for increased                                                               
funding  for  services  to  rural  communities,  and  she  voiced                                                               
support for the parent navigator program.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:21:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LELAND agreed, and requested  more beds for expecting mothers                                                               
with substance abuse problems.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:21:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RANDALL expressed  a need for education  to special education                                                               
providers.   She relayed that  her daughter's FASD  diagnosis was                                                               
not  accepted  by  the  Ketchikan schools  because  it  had  been                                                               
performed in Juneau.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:23:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  expressed  his  incredulity  "that  the  school                                                               
district says sorry."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. RANDALL relayed  that they had since moved her  daughter to a                                                               
private school.   She stated that Ketchikan had  a reputation for                                                               
digging  their  feet  in  and  being  stubborn  about  children's                                                               
services.    She  relayed  that her  daughter's  IEP  for  speech                                                               
therapy was closed because she did not communicate well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  repeated  his incredulity  and  commented  that                                                               
Representative Seaton,  as Chair of the  House Standing Committee                                                               
on Education, would explore this bias on a statewide level.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:24:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  reported about his teaching  background, and                                                               
expressed his shock for this incident.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RANDALL  replied that  she  had  been  a teacher,  prior  to                                                               
becoming a  nurse.  She  expressed her concern for  other parents                                                               
who did  not know that  they could also  be the "voice  for their                                                               
child."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:27:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  called for  more  support  from the  school                                                               
districts, and expressed  that "it's the kids  that are important                                                               
here.  It's our future."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:27:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  expressed  his  concern,  and  asked  Ms.                                                               
Randall for a written follow up  to the testing and the incident,                                                               
so  that  he could  pursue  a  follow up.    He  opined that  the                                                               
Ketchikan Gateway Borough School  District had denied support for                                                               
an intensive needs program, and not special education.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:30:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE  SLOANE  explained  that  she had  been  Ellie  Randall's                                                               
public  school  special  education  teacher.    She  offered  her                                                               
perceptions to the  current direction of special  education.  She                                                               
shared  that  she  had  taught  in  Bush  Alaska,  where  it  was                                                               
estimated that  76 percent  of the  150 kids  had some  degree of                                                               
FASD, but  that most  were not  diagnosed.   She noted  that talk                                                               
about drinking  alcohol while  pregnant was  taboo.   She offered                                                               
her opinion  that the Ketchikan  Gateway Borough  School District                                                               
was  primarily  focused on  adequate  yearly  progress, and  that                                                               
special education was focused on  ensuring that the most students                                                               
passed  the  state  mandated  tests.   She  opined  that  special                                                               
education students were  "pushed to the side  because they're not                                                               
the majority of  those kids who're going to pull  the scores up."                                                               
She   expressed  concern   for  this   approach  and   shared  an                                                               
apprehension for the purported over  diagnosis of Native Alaskans                                                               
by the  school district.   She opined  that the district  went to                                                               
the cautious extreme  of not labeling students for  fear of being                                                               
sued.    She stated  that  this  resulted  in long  term  student                                                               
failure before it was possible  to intervene.  She identified the                                                               
taboo for labeling and the  lack of training in special education                                                               
diagnoses  as  causes for  an  inability  to distinguish  between                                                               
cultural, behavioral, and learning issues.   She reported this to                                                               
be a  systemic problem which  was exacerbated in  small districts                                                               
due to an even more limited number of viewpoints.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:34:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Health  and  Social  Services   Standing  Committee  meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at 5:34 p.m.                                                                                                          

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